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如前所述，贺梅案中关键一点是1999年6月的一个监护权移交文件，对此文件，贺家的作证是该监护权移交是临时的，只是为了给贺梅办保险。贝克的证词是，该移交是永久的，贝克得到永久抚养贺梅的权利。
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谁说了假话？
贝克及其粉丝的首要特征是不诚实，dishonest。我在15点申明中严格证明了主审的CHILDERS法官是个LIAR，这也被英文媒体报道了。LIAR们是可耻的。
对比贝克、尤牧师、克劳德的证词就知道了。
先看贝克证词：
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9 Q. Ms. Baker, I'm going to ask you that
10 question again. After you said the phrase, "This
11 visit was very discouraging to us," the very next
12 sentence you stated was -- and correct me if I'm
13 wrong -- "They wanted to see if they could come
14 and get Anna and keep her for the day next
15 Sunday. I told them, no." Did you say that?
16 A. I absolutely did.
17 Q. And Ms. He did not get upset until
18 after you told her, "No." Isn't that right?
19 A. She wouldn't have no reason to get
20 upset before, no.
21 Q. So how do you define a good visit or a
22 non-discouraging visit?
23 A. I guess when she's not upset. That's
24 the majority of the bad visits is when she was
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1 upset and screaming and crying.
2 Q. Isn't it also true that you define a
3 good visit as one of those visits where Ms. He
4 doesn't want the child for more than an hour or
5 she doesn't want to take to the child out of the
6 house?
7 A. No.
8 Q. It's your testimony today under oath
9 that the arrangement that you had on June 4th,
10 1999 with the Hes was a permanent arrangement?
11 You had every intention on June 4th, 1999 of
12 having permanent legal and parental custody of
13 this child?
14 A. Our agreement was that we would raise
15 her for the rest of her life.
16 Q. Do you recall discussing this case in a
17 CASA report? Do you recall a CASA investigator
18 interviewing you about this case back in Juvenile
19 Court?
20 A. I recall one being at our home.
21 Q. Do you recall that his name was Chris
22 Korejo?
23 A. It's a her.
24 Q. Do you recall that to be her name?
323
1 A. Yes.
2 Q. And am I correct in saying that the
3 interview occurred just before the Juvenile Court
4 hearing with Judge Claudia Haltom?
5 A. I believe so.
6 Q. And did you tell that CASA worker just
7 before the Juvenile Court hearing with Judge
8 Claudia Haltom, that the Bakers -- that you would
9 seek permanent, legal and parental custody of the
10 minor child? Did you tell her that?
11 A. I don't recall telling her that, no.
12 Q. Would you like to take a look at the
13 report?
14 A. I've never seen the report. So I don't
15 know.
16 MR. SIEGEL: Your Honor, this is
17 also the same report that is attached to the
18 report of the guardian ad litem. So it would be
19 excepted from the hearsay rule.
20 BY MR. SIEGEL:
21 Q. Ms. Baker, do you see the very last
22 sentence on that CASA report dated June 28th of
23 the year 2000?
24 A. Yes, I see the sentence.
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1 Q. Would you read that for the record?
2 A. It said, "The Bakers stated they would
3 seek permanent, legal, parental custody of Anna
4 Mae."
5 Q. And would you agree that the use of the
6 word "would" implies some event that is going to
7 take place in the future?
8 A. I guess that's what "would" would mean.
PASTOR YAU证词
Q. And what specifically — based on that, what
specifically did you explain to Ms. He?
A. In summary — you know, I can’t recall the word
for word question — said that because the Hes were
unable to financially support the baby at that time,
that some family was willing to take care of their
baby on their behalf, but because of the legal
procedure that necessitate to buy insurance or to
administer medication or whatever to the baby by
the custodian, Ms. He needs to give the authority
to the custodian by signing a document.
Q. Did you hear the word “temporary” in that meeting?
A. Yes.
SARA CLOUD（法庭工作人员）证词
Q. All right, and did either Mr. or Mrs. He tell
you that they wanted the Bakers to take care of their
child on a permanent basis?
A. No.
Q. Did the Hes ever say anything to you that
indicated to you that they were interested in either
a temporary or permanent arrangement?
A. Temporary.
Q. Can you tell us what you recall?
A. I recall mainly talking to Casey, that she was
very concerned that it was not a permanent situation.
She did not want it to be a permanent situation.
Q. She made that very clear to you?
A. Yes, sir.
. . . .
Q. When Mr. and Mrs. Baker and Mr. and Mrs. He were
before you on June 4 of 1999, did they appear to
be in agreement?
A. Yes.
Q. It did not appear to be a contested matter. Is
that correct?
A. No.
Q. You understood Ms. He, through the interpreter,
to wanting this matter to be temporary only. Is that
your understanding?
A. Yes.
. . . .
Q. If you understood that Mr. and Mrs. Baker wanted
language in the consent order that said that, “We
will be able to raise this child until she’s 18 years
of age,” would you consider that to be consistent
with what Ms. He understood on that day?
A. No.
. . . .
Q. Ms. Cloud, what was the agreement that you were
so sure that all parties had consented to? Was it
temporary or permanent?
A. Temporary.
. . . .
Q. Temporary because it could be changed; right?
A. That would be one of the reasons, but I believe
Casey was fairly adamant that at some point she
wanted her child back.
Q. And what specifically — based on that, what
specifically did you explain to Ms. He?
A. In summary — you know, I can’t recall the word
for word question — said that because the Hes were
unable to financially support the baby at that time,
that some family was willing to take care of their
baby on their behalf, but because of the legal
procedure that necessitate to buy insurance or to
administer medication or whatever to the baby by
the custodian, Ms. He needs to give the authority
to the custodian by signing a document.
Q. Did you hear the word “temporary” in that meeting?
A. Yes.
SARA CLOUD（法庭工作人员）证词
Q. All right, and did either Mr. or Mrs. He tell
you that they wanted the Bakers to take care of their
child on a permanent basis?
A. No.
Q. Did the Hes ever say anything to you that
indicated to you that they were interested in either
a temporary or permanent arrangement?
A. Temporary.
Q. Can you tell us what you recall?
A. I recall mainly talking to Casey, that she was
very concerned that it was not a permanent situation.
She did not want it to be a permanent situation.
Q. She made that very clear to you?
A. Yes, sir.
. . . .
Q. When Mr. and Mrs. Baker and Mr. and Mrs. He were
before you on June 4 of 1999, did they appear to
be in agreement?
A. Yes.
Q. It did not appear to be a contested matter. Is
that correct?
A. No.
Q. You understood Ms. He, through the interpreter,
to wanting this matter to be temporary only. Is that
your understanding?
A. Yes.
. . . .
Q. If you understood that Mr. and Mrs. Baker wanted
language in the consent order that said that, “We
will be able to raise this child until she’s 18 years
of age,” would you consider that to be consistent
with what Ms. He understood on that day?
A. No.
. . . .
Q. Ms. Cloud, what was the agreement that you were
so sure that all parties had consented to? Was it
temporary or permanent?
A. Temporary.
. . . .
Q. Temporary because it could be changed; right?
A. That would be one of the reasons, but I believe
Casey was fairly adamant that at some point she
wanted her child back.
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发表评论 评论 (18 个评论)
- 回复 玮哥
- 你口口声声说人家都是LIAR，从你前天的博文中明确说到你们都已原谅了贝克夫妇，但现在还在没完没了的炒作，你原谅他们了吗？你说了真话了吗？生怕别人把您给忘了？现在贺梅的母亲和贝克夫妇关系已经相当融洽，你是不想让他们好还是想咋的，是吧？是不是想证明咱中国人心理比美国人还要阴暗那，实在看不下去了，不得不说两句
- 回复 岳东晓
- LIAR是一个有客观标准的概念，与你的主观喜好毫无关系。是不是LIAR要看他是否说过假话。你如果上过法庭就知道了，你20年前的谎言也会被揪出来，作为你不诚实的证据。
玮哥: 你口口声声说人家都是LIAR，从你前天的博文中明确说到你们都已原谅了贝克夫妇，但现在还在没完没了的炒作，你原谅他们了吗？你说了真话了吗？生怕别人把您给忘了 ...
- 回复 岳东晓
- 而且看来你不懂什么叫宽恕。所谓宽恕，是胜者表示不再寻求对败者进行报复的意思。而不是说认同或者忘记败者之前的恶行。
玮哥: 你口口声声说人家都是LIAR，从你前天的博文中明确说到你们都已原谅了贝克夫妇，但现在还在没完没了的炒作，你原谅他们了吗？你说了真话了吗？生怕别人把您给忘了 ...
- 回复 玮哥
- 你这话代表你的雇主贺梅她妈吗？怎么没看到她任何指责“恶行”的文章，只有你到处挑动群众斗群众，这是在制造仇恨，不是吗
岳东晓: 而且看来你不懂什么叫宽恕。所谓宽恕，是胜者表示不再寻求对败者进行报复的意思。而不是说认同或者忘记败者之前的恶行。
- 回复 岳东晓
- 谁是群众？反对贺家团聚的都是匿名鼠辈而已，等于不存在。只有支持贺家团聚的人们才真正站出来过。
玮哥: 你这话代表你的雇主贺梅她妈吗？怎么没看到她任何指责“恶行”的文章，只有你到处挑动群众斗群众，这是在制造仇恨，不是吗
- 回复 岳东晓
- 别自作多情，你是否感谢贝克与我根本无关，你是谁，谁在乎？我只是说出事实----贝克是什么人物。反对贺家团聚的人有的是，如果你不是，你用得着自己对号入座？
玮哥: 感谢贝家=拆散贺家？不要无事生非地硬掰，乱舞棒子，乱戴帽子，以博同情，大家都在为他们团聚高兴，谁在阻止团聚，请举哪怕一例
至于你说我说谎，请你讲出根据，如果不能，我将把你列入黑名单，这里不是可以信口雌黄之地--凭空说人说谎是诽谤。懂吗？
- 回复 torpedo1
- 我认为还是贝克在关键问题上不诚实，使这个官司大了那么久。粉丝们不了解细则，所以盲目当了粉丝。当他们知道真相后很多人转变了看法。有些人话已出口，明知是错了，但自尊心作怪，将错就错，未必属于不诚实。但那些号称研究过该案的人如果忽略了这个细节，还要千方百计的去引导别人为贝克的官司喊冤，那就是不诚实了。
- 回复 岳东晓
- 不光是贝克不诚实，法官也不诚实---被我证明是LIAR，在报纸上都登了。网上这些要给贝克捐款的还称不上粉丝，大多只是头脑简单的二愣子。
torpedo1: 我认为还是贝克在关键问题上不诚实，使这个官司大了那么久。粉丝们不了解细则，所以盲目当了粉丝。当他们知道真相后很多人转变了看法。有些人话已出口，明知是错 ...
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