..defeat is an orphan.Also geopolitically  Russian victory will reverse the 1991 fall of the SU to a degree that will give space and breathing room to China and Russia anf TW  is another huge matter entirely and hopefully resolved to Chinese satisfaction with no/minimum fighting(Sun tzu-to win without fighting-highest acme of skill) realistic?don't know but Japan/Sk/And even India needs to be put their place-cr*p terms like IndoPaific erased.