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SHARMINI PERIES: Right. And one interesting thing with the new administration coming in, and you have pointed to this, Michael, is that least the good news here is that we're not going to be going to war with Russia. Instead, I think we're poking our finger in the eye of the Chinese government. Give us a sense of what your thoughts are on that.

MICHAEL HUDSON: Well, there's been a whole argument in the administration between Kissinger and Brzezinski. Both of these men say, "We've got to divide and conquer. If there's going to be another country that tries to go its own way and be independent of America, we've got to smash it up. We've got to break up Russia and break up China. What do we do first?"

Kissinger says that the long-term enemy is China because they're smarter and larger and so you want to pry Russia away. You want to do nice to Russia and tell President Putin, "Look, if you go with us, we'll give you Ukraine, we'll pull back NATO, but we want to pry you back towards Europe and away from China."

Brzezinski, being Polish, hates Russia and wants to go with China and he says, "No, no. We've got to continue to fight Russia and back the Hillary group within the CIA and the National Security Agency. We've got to fight Russia." And it looks like Trump is following the Kissinger group trying to split it up from Russia. I don't think he has a chance in succeeding in this because Putin can say, "Look, America changes its policies so much we can't depend upon you. Obama and Secretary Kerry have broken every agreement that they have made with us. The Clintons have broken every agreement. We don't trust America anymore. We're forced to rely on China and Iran." And you also have China supporting Iran because of its own oil investments there.