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Arthur Hubers

08/26/2000, 11:48:34




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On one hand, i support democracy and freedom of speech yet on the other hand i request a petition to ban someone. I will explain my reasons for this:

-1- As I have stated before, i don't think basic rules of discussion apply to someone who doesn't believe in them, and propagates this freedom of speech itself should be put asides. Logically, he can't even participate in free and open discussions since he doesn't believe in them.

-2- I believe his ideas to be genuinely dangerous. This might of course be becaus i am vary wary of all forms of extremist propaganda for non-Tibexan or other entertaining reasons. He is entitled to have his opinions of course, but i would truely resent it if somebody else might be influenced by his propaganda. This is also the main reason why i cannot agree with him on anything he sais, because he simply does not deserve any support which makes him and/or his cause stronger. For example, i don't have any problems with someone like Ny following George Tze as if he were some Mother Goose, but i would think it terrible if he would become a NV disciple.

-3- He proposed to ban me first, for being 'insulting to the Chinese military' and because i'm not Chinese. All but one response were negative (thanks everyone for the support), but i did feel some primitive urge to strike back.

-4- I seriously believe he is an imposter trying to do nothing but causing confusion and great annoyance at least. I know i am probably giving him what he wants, but as i've said in lemma -2- i just can't accept his ideas.

Usually, i am quite reluctant as well when it comes to banning people. I completely agree that flamers sometimes are a source of entertainment, or a nice target to cool your anger with. I might be inconsistent, but i think there is a world of difference between George Tze's little flame-sparks or hawkishchinese_1's crap and Nazi Vision's hate-advocating postings.

I just can't stand nazis - they believe in an ideology which has absolute disregard for human wellbeing. Other ideologies are often just as bad, but they at least are founded on human wellbeing like communism, or religions like the islam.

I did not take your comments personal (so no offense taken), but i did think it would be best to explain my views on nazi posters a bit more. I still hope YDX decides to ban this nazi, as it's for people like him that Totenkopf had found it necessary to begin an alternative forum.

Regards,

Arthur






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