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swoosh

05/26/2013, 16:05:23




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dna Special: Government calls bluff on army's Ladakh manoeuvres

Thursday, May 9, 2013, 10:30 IST | Place: New Delhi | Agency: DNA
 

National security establishment sees red as troops built bunkers, started aggressive border patrolling in Chumar sector but gave inaccurate details of manoeuvres.

All's not well on the border
All's not well on the border

The border face-off between India and China seems to have cooled for now but there is considerable anger within the government against the army for giving inaccurate details regarding Chumar sector in Ladakh.

The army had built bunkers and started undertaking aggressive border patrolling in Chumar in early April, according to highly placed sources. This had prompted China to play it off in Daulat Beg Oldi sector in the north of Chumar by undertaking a 19 kilometers incursion inside the Indian territory and pitching tents in Rakinala.

Top sources revealed that the high-level China Study Group (CSG) — consisting of national security advisor Shiv Shankar Menon, cabinet secretary Ajit Seth, defence secretary Shashikant Sharma, home secretary RK Singh and top heads of the central security agencies — took a very dim view of the army giving an inaccurate picture of its manoeuvres in Chumar.

When the CSG sat down to take stock of the Chinese incursion on April 15, the army had apparently said that it had only set up some makeshift shelters in Chumar sector to take care of its troops in times of need. 

Within the next couple of days, the CSG gathered evidence about the army’s actual position from independent sources and confirmed it with the agencies. The information proved that the army had given inaccurate information and was building bunkers that were not in line with the 2005 Border Patrol protocol singed by the two countries. On being asked by dna, the army denied having undertaken construction of any bunkers or intensifying patrolling in Chumar sector.

The episode has prompted the CSG to take a strong view of maintaining the independence of the ITBP and not to handover its operational control to the army.

Sources said that the army had undertaken construction of seven bunkers of which one had already been built and earthwork of four others had finished when China flexed its muscles in Daulat Beg Oldi sector. This sector is strategically important from Indian perspective as it overlooks the Karakoram highway.

By positioning themselves in Rakinala, the Chinese prevented Indian forces from patrolling to at least for patrol points along the Line of Actual Control, just as Indian manoeuvre in Chumar had prevented the Chinese from entering into disputed areas of Eastern Ladakh, which it considers its own.

Sources told dna that when the CSG discussed Chinese incursion in Daulat Beg Oldi Sector on April 15, it asked the army to suspend the visit of its delegation to China to finalise the proposed joint counter terrorism exercise in October later this year.

However, top officials of the army later met the NSA and surprisingly the decision was overturned and the delegation went ahead with its visit to China on April 18.

The unsavoury face-off between the two countries has prompted India to re-look at China’s offer to rework the 2005 border protocol and may seek to redraft in the near future.

 






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No surprise, already knew the Indian cross the LAC and built structure
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motif

05/27/2013, 05:14:36




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My grand vision of a national hindutva army to solve defense&unemployment issues
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Dalai BinShaitan

05/26/2013, 19:12:48




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My grand vision of a hinduwadis national army

Bharat suffers from high unemployement as well as insecurity as neighbour of jihadist mughals and fire breathing china dragon. I suggest to raise a hinduwadis ground sena(army) of 20 millions to solve the two problems in one single stroke . The budget, formation and functions are practical and workable.

Bharat has a GDP/capita of $1500 or 83000 ruppees a year. Two percent of bharat’s GDP will be about 36 billion and lets round it off as 40 billion. Divided it by 20 million gives $2000 or 110,000 rupees a year per soldier to which I suggest an average monthly stipend of 5000 rupees plus 800 rupees towards his retirement plan.The rest goes to uniform, basic ayurveda health care, occupancy of a barrack bunk bed and ammos. It’s a job of 60% full-time load and the soldiers can pick up part-time jobs as snake-charmers, yoga instructors, fortune-tellers, watchman, buskers, cow-urine-beverage makers and etc. Each hinduwadis warrior will be given a 0.303 Lee Enfield bolt-action rifle, monthly target practicing supply of 150 rounds and a holy cow. The holycows will provide milk as protein source, dung as fuel, urine as medicine and means of mobility. A typical enlisted man will begin his career at age 20 and the tenture will end at age 45 and then will receive a monthly retirement cheque 40% of his pay. Very practical indeed. Such a cow-mobile, sharp shooting dharmic army will indeed be formidable in both defensive and offensive capacity, not to mention internal holy cows protection against dalit/Christian/muslim proaching. For comparision, Sauron had an army of something like 10000-15000 to conquer Middle Earth; just imagine what could 20 millions do to the Middle Kingdom? Mind you I’m not suggesting a hindu version of the stereotyped chicom human waves tactics because the chicoms are not blessed with so many holy cows.






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Well, 'free' people are 'free' to make mistakes, as Rumsfeld would say.
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05/26/2013, 17:20:41




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